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Like nearly everything else Little Brian does (or sometimes doesn't do), suspending Kenseth is complete bullshit. There are so many ways it's wrong. Mind you, I am not saying what Matt did was "right", but I'm also not saying it was "wrong". I think Kyle Busch said it best:

Did he do anything wrong? I don't know. Did he do anything right? I don't know. I think it all depends on whose name is above the door, on whether or not you're allowed to do it. It's `boys being boys` right now, but you gotta be consistent. You know? I definitely feel that NASCAR is very consistent in being inconsistent on calls. And I think it's BS.


Every single driver that's been willing to say anything publicly has stated that Matt Kenseth was upholding the code. They all agree that that's the way racing should be. Does that mean they necessarily condone what he did? No, of course not. But every race car driver knows and understands that there's a code, and it's going to be enforced.

Back to that inconsistency for a moment. Jeff Gordon planted Clint Bowyer into the wall at Phoenix in 2012. (As an interesting aside, Joey Lagano was driving what is now Matt Kenseth's car - the #20 - and was caught up in the wreck. Irony!) Where was the suspension? Hint: There wasn't one.

Carl Edwards vs. Brad Keselowski at Atlanta in 2010. Where was the suspension? Hint: There wasn't one.

Earnhardt vs Terry Labonte at Bristol (pick a year). Where was the suspension? Hint: There wasn't one.

This whole ordeal goes back to last year when "Bad Brad" was running everyone over and NASCAR implicitly approved. Remember Kenseth going after him between the haulers after the Fall race at Charlotte? Fast forward to Kansas in October. Then Talladega. Then Martinsville. Matt said, "enough is enough".

NASCAR said that they can't have stuff like that happening because "no one will get away with manipulating the outcome of the race." Really? Are you fucking kidding me? Forget going back over the course of history and listing all of the race manipulation; there are far too many races to mention! And that's just the ones that the fucking flag man intentionally manipulated the outcome of! No, let's just look at the last three consecutive races:

Kansas. Lagano intentionally and willfully dumped - not moved - Kenseth and not only manipulated the outcome of the race, but "the chase".

Little Brian immediately came on and said, "That's quintessential NASCAR!!"

Talladega. Harvick intentionally and willfully dumped the #6, taking out roughly a dozen cars in the process, once again completely manipulating the outcome of the race as well as "the chase".

Little Brian, et al, came out and said, "There is no evidence to support that it was intentional." Really? NASCAR are the only ones that have seen the video and/or the in-car audio and came to that conclusion. It is plain as day that it was intentional.

Martinsville. Matt pulls a Harvick, and blames it on a mechanical issue. Was it intentional? Obviously. Did he change the outcome of the race? Probably, but there are a lot of people that believe the #24 was "lying in wait", saving his stuff for the end. So who really knows. Did he change "the chase"? Highly unlikely. The #22 has been the car to beat and there's no reason to think he won't be the car to beat at Texas.

Suspension. WTF?!

Little Brian: You have ruined the entire sport. Look at your grandstands! Week after week after week, they're at least half empty! The entire backstretch grandstands at Martinsville were closed and covered with ad banners! Are you kidding me?!?! Your TV audiences are shrinking every week, and have been for years. GET A FUCKING CLUE!!!

Hopefully JG pulls a magic rabbit out of a hat at Homestead and wins the bullshit "championship" this year, riding off into the sunset. He's already had 3 legit championships stolen from him by "the chase", I figure he deserves a bullshit one in his last race.

NASCAR Talk! / I just gotta say...
« on: November 25, 2014, 01:09:31 AM »
"The Chase" is possibly the worst thing that has ever happened to any sport. Little Brian changed things up in order to keep anyone from catching or surpassing The King or The Intimidator. After a few years he realized that he really screwed the pooch by making "The Chase" really about "Chasing JJ". JJ got to 5 and Little Brian was like "WTF?!?!?!?! WHAT DO WE DO NOW?!?!?!?!?!"

"We make changes, that's what we do!"

Well, that kept JJ off balance for a couple of years, but then .... BOOM!  #6

"WTF?!?!?!?!?!  WHAT DO WE DO NOW?!?!?!?!?!??!?!"

"Oh yeah! We make changes!"

So 2014 saw the most bullshit, contrived "championship" ever. Don't get me wrong, Harvick had an absolutely phenomenal season. But let's be honest. Kevin Harvick's real championship came in 2010, to the tune of 5,274 points to JJ's 4,989.

Here are the facts:

YearReal ChampionPoints Margin# of Championships?Fake Champion
2004Jeff Gordon
Kurt Busch
2005Tony Stewart
Tony Stewart
2006Jimmie Johnson
Jimmie Johnson
2007Jeff Gordon
Jimmie Johnson
2008Carl Edwards
Jimmie Johnson
2009Jimmie Johnson
Jimmie Johnson
2010Kevin Harvick
Jimmie Johnson
2011Carl Edwards
Tony Stewart
2012Brad Keselowski
Brad Keselowski
2013Jimmie Johnson
Jimmie Johnson
2014Jeff Gordon
Kevin Harvick

So then, here is the legitimate Top 10 NASCAR Cup Champions of All-Time (ties are sorted alphabetical, by first name):
  • #1 (Tie) - Dale Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon, Richard Petty* (7)
  • #4 (Tie) - Cale Yarborough, Darrell Waltrip, Jimmie Johnson, Lee Petty (3)
  • #8 (Tie) - Buck Baker, Carl Edwards, Herb Thomas, Joe Weatherly, Ned Jarrett, Terry Labonte, Tim Flock, Tony Stewart (2)

* Only 4 of Richard Petty's championships came in the Modern Era (1972-present).

It is flat out depressing as hell what Little Brian has done to racing. As if NASCAR didn't already have a bad enough rap, he's single-handedly turned it into an absolute laughing stock.

"Little" Brian France: THE reason I no longer watch NASCAR. It pains me greatly that he's stolen so much joy from so many people. His daddy must be awfully proud. NOT!

Off-Topic Lounge / Re: Nascardiac is back!!!!!
« on: October 09, 2014, 09:54:10 AM »
Apparently the forums show to be working just fine for administrators but are actually in "maintenance mode" for everyone else. That's helpful. Not.

Why were we in maintenance mode?

Off-Topic Lounge / Change your password
« on: October 09, 2014, 09:51:17 AM »
So, it seems that hackers got into the site and posted some nasty stuff (hidden from the main forums). While it doesn't seem they got into the username / password stuff, there's no way to be certain. As such, it is recommended that you change your password.

The nasty stuff was removed and the forums were upgraded, which allegedly addresses the security issue that allowed them access.

:: fingers crossed ::

NASCAR Talk! / Re: Question about qualifying
« on: May 30, 2014, 06:31:39 PM »
That's a great theory, but Gordon beat Hamlin outright - 21.856 to 21.862 - in the first practice. Doesn't make sense, like everything else Little Brian has torched. :-(

NASCAR Talk! / Question about qualifying
« on: May 30, 2014, 06:02:15 PM »
My apologies if I've missed the answer to this in my blissful ignoring of Little France's destruction of a great sport, but can someone please explain to me how the *points leader* is positioned after someone sitting 14th in points when they tied in their qualifying time?!

7 JEFF GORDON 22.077

February 25, 2014
Daytona, USA - The annual Daytona 500 Champions Breakfast on Monday was one for the history books. Dale Earnhardt, Jr., eleven time winner of NASCAR's Most Popular Driver award, was toasted for his second career Daytona 500 victory. Earnhardt, Jr also won the "Super Bowl of NASCAR" ten years prior, six years to the day after his father took home his lone Harley J. Earl Trophy on February 16, 1998.

"This is better than the first one!" exclaimed Earnhardt, Jr., visibly moved after claiming the checkered flag on Sunday. "This is the greatest feeling in the world for a race car driver, other than holding the Sprint Cup Trophy at the end of the year."

On Monday, NASCAR Chairman and CEO Brian France - well known for his cutting edge maneuvering and in-flux rules changes (in 2013 he inexplicably added a 13th driver, Jeff Gordon, to The Chase for the Sprint Cup as the result of a cheating scandal by Michael Waltrip Racing at the regular season ending Richmond race) made a surprise announcement during the Champion's Breakfast.

"Yesterday, we fought the rain all day long. The track officials, the safety crews, our race officials, the drivers, crew chiefs, the crewmen, the fans that braved the weather and came out to the track, everyone. Six plus hours of grueling filling of time. We even had numerous news outlets like Fox Sports and ESPN name Jimmie Johnson as the 2014 Daytona 500 Champ after a replay of last year's race during the rain delay. But at the end of a long night, the racing gods were victorious, and the true 2014 Daytona 500 Champion, now a two-time winner, is our very own Dale Earnhardt, Jr.!" France said.

"This is a historic moment in our sport," he continued, "a moment for all of Junior Nation and NASCAR Nation at large to stand and be proud of. There is no more fitting way to begin - and end - our season than to have Dale Earnhardt, Jr. winning the Daytona 500! I know his daddy is smiling proudly! That is why today we are announcing a new twist in the rules for 2014," France said with his patented wry smile.

"Late last night, the NASCAR world became almost perfect. Today, we declare perfection! For the first time in NASCAR history, the winner of NASCAR's Super Bowl, the Daytona 500, is in fact the Champion! Congratulations, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., your 2014 Daytona 500 and Sprint Cup Champion!" boomed France.

And with that, a shocked Dale Earnhardt, Jr., the newly crowned 2014 NASCAR Sprint Cup Champion took the podium and officially accepted his second Harley J Earl Trophy and his first Sprint Cup Trophy. "Man, when I said 'This is better than the first', I had no idea! I don't even know what to say. Daddy, I hope you're proud of me!" said Earnhardt to thunderous applause.

Asked by reporters after the ceremony what that meant for the rest of the season, France quipped, "It's all down hill from here! We'll take the show to cities and towns all across this great land and parade our 2014 Sprint Cup Champion for all to see! In November, we'll award our new Silver Medallion Award for the second place finisher after Homestead. This is the most exciting season in our history!"

NASCAR Talk! / Re: NASCAR considering changes to the Chase
« on: January 30, 2014, 06:52:25 PM »
Another example of total suckage about the new "Chase". Let's use Tony Stewart as an example. Last year he got hurt and missed a few races. Obviously he missed the remainder of the season, but what if it were only, say, 3-4 races, and he was still in the Top 30 in points (ridiculously easy to do - Tony missed 15 races in 2013 and still finished 29th in points) and had won at least one race. Would he be in "The Chase"?  Anope. Why? Because you have to attempt to qualify for each of the first 26 races in order to be in.

David Pearson Championships
1966 - Missed 7 races
1968 - Missed 1 race
1969 - Missed 3 races

Richard Petty Championships
1964 - Missed 1 race
1967 - Missed 1 race
1971 - Missed 2 races

Lee Petty Championships
1954 - Missed 3 races
1958 - Missed 1 race
1959 - Missed 2 races

I'm sure there are other examples to choose from, and I know it's going way back, but does anyone believe that Lee Petty or David Pearson should have 0 championships instead of 3, or that Richard Petty should have 4 championships instead of 7 just because they missed a race or 7 that season?

I get that the "must attempt to qualify" rule is designed to keep a one-hit wonder from swooping in and winning at Talledega or Daytona (see Derrike Cope or Brad K a few years back), but it's a bogus rule for a bogus "championship".

NASCAR Talk! / Re: NASCAR considering changes to the Chase
« on: January 30, 2014, 06:22:24 PM »
I just saw a clip of Brian Dumbass France's press conference announcing the changes to "The Chase". What a steaming pile of crap. "The Chase" is precisely why I no longer watch NASCAR. These changes don't make it any better, they make it worse. Seriously, four guys and only one race?  Talk about a) artificially creating a champion, and b) totally belittling the season-long efforts. What a crock.

Man, do I long for the days of Big Bill.

NASCAR Talk! / Re: Daytona Trip for a Fan
« on: January 30, 2014, 06:17:00 PM »
I know I've been AWOL, but WOW! This is some seriously cool stuff!!!!!!  Congrats!!!!  Makes me feel like a proud ....... something. :P

Off-Topic Lounge / Re: It's Been a Wild Ride ......
« on: June 12, 2013, 10:26:49 AM »
OK, so, umm, uhh, I've been covered up and haven't had a chance to get everything ironed out, but I should let you guys know ........

Cab (Checkers88, sorry ... still Cab to me :D ) and Kimmer are gonna take over admin duties and continue the love affair known as So, Nascardiac is not going anywhere, for now, and hopefully ever. :-)

Off-Topic Lounge / Re: It's Been a Wild Ride ......
« on: March 22, 2013, 12:03:12 AM »
Just so folks know, more than one person has PM'd me about keeping this wild ride running for a while longer. Don't give up hope just yet!  ;-)

NASCAR Talk! / Re: Jeff Gordon Test Drive Prank.
« on: March 14, 2013, 01:51:17 AM »
I would *love* to see the unedited version of that video!  Thanks for posting, Bandit.  :-)

Off-Topic Lounge / It's Been a Wild Ride ......
« on: March 14, 2013, 01:32:16 AM »
It's been a crazy 6 years. Roughly 2500 members; nearly 100,000 posts. Lots of laughs. More than enough tears. Through it all, it was still about the Nascardiacs. :-)

Unfortunately, neither Scott nor I have the time to invest any longer, and so, with yet another renewal approaching, we've decided to pull the plug and let rest in peace (seems appropriate after losing a few of our founding members). Come March 27, 2013, will enter into the Interwebs Pearly Gates. It's a bittersweet pill to swallow, but it is what it is. :-(

Thanks for the ride, Nascardiacs. You guys have never ceased to amaze us. And MASSIVE thanks to Signholder and Signspotter for helping us with an epic rocket launch at Texas Motor Speedway, on SPEED Channel, in April 2007.

Quack & Scott

(P.S. Should someone wish to take over hosting and management, Scott and I would be happy to oblige. We hate to see it come to an end; we just simply do not have the time any more. Feel free to PM me if you are interested.)

Off-Topic Lounge / Registration Temporarily Disabled
« on: June 11, 2011, 09:18:11 PM »
After today's massive bombardment of spam, I have temporarily disabled registration.  If you have a friend or family member that you want to have registered, send a PM to me with all of their information.  For now, no one is allowed in without a referral from an existing *trustworthy member.

*If you are known around here, you're trustworthy.  That comment is not directed toward you.

Off-Topic Lounge / Re: Where are the Mod's?
« on: June 11, 2011, 05:24:19 PM »
Where is the porn?  We have deleted a ton of accounts, posts, and threads today.  I don't see any porn??

« on: March 12, 2011, 08:09:08 PM »
Thank ya very much, i aim to please.  ;D

And God knows how much I love a lady that aims to please!   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

« on: March 10, 2011, 03:58:13 AM »
It's been in the 70s and 80s for most of the last 2+ weeks.  Forecast for the next 10+ days calls for more of the same.  I predict we hit 100 in early April.  God, I LOVE warm weather!  :)

NASCAR Talk! / Re: NASCAR may scrap points system?
« on: January 19, 2011, 02:55:43 PM »
Lowest score at the end of the season wins championship

They're trying to compete with the NFL for ratings, not the PGA.   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

NASCAR Talk! / Re: New Crew Chiefs for Gordon, Martin and Earnhardt Jr.
« on: November 30, 2010, 01:31:52 AM »
The Junior/Letarte pairing actually makes perfect sense.  Stevie is a people person, known for his uncanny ability to get close to people and keep them motivated.  If Junior is ever going to win again, he needs a crew chief that can motivate him.

Mark and Lance will be fine together.  They are both proven winners.  Besides, Mark is being reunited with his car chief and most of his crew from 2009 when he won so many races and finished 2nd in "the chase".  They were all switched from his team to Junior's for 2010 in an attempt to get Junior to be competitive again.

Jeff and Alan.  That should be a very good matchup.  Jeff needs that decisive engineer atop the pit box instead of the people person that is Stevie.

All in all, 2011 should see the 5, 24, and 88 all three be more competitive, in terms of W's.  But, come November, it'll still be the 48 holding the hardware in Homestead.

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