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Title: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Texas16 on April 25, 2007, 10:38:53 PM
I drive a Ford and fill it with Shell gasoline.  My telephone is a Motorola and my wireless carrier is Cingular.  I eat Subway sandwiches and wash them down with Diet Coke. All of my home improvement products come from The Home Depot. UPS handles my shipping needs. Kraft Mac-n-Cheese is my bad-day-comfort-food. And I’m sure that if I had a need for butt paste, I’d buy Boudreaux’s Butt Paste.

NASCAR fans are reported to be one of the most brand-loyal commercial sports market out there, and the ladies of NASCAR are no exception.  Do I make a conscious effort to buy NASCAR sponsoring brands?  Absolutely, yes.  I recently read that more than 50% of women fans are brand-loyal to their favorite drivers’ products.  And the sponsors know that.

Aside from the three crazed women chasing Kasey Kahne in the All State commercials, many of the ads seem to this non-advertising-professional’s eye to be geared to women.  Think about Jeff Burton’s State Farm ad—“We’re not going anywhere until our seat belts are fastened”.  Two young children in a mini-van and a female spokesperson?  The message seems directed straight at Mrs NASCAR-Watching Soccer Mom.  Even Junior’s “Crazy mutant desert guys” ad, like so many others, is fairly gender neutral despite an apparently all-male contingent of mutant desert guys.

Don’t think for a minute, however, that I’ll buy a Ford just because Greg Biffle drives a Ford.  I will buy a Ford—or a Chevy or a Dodge or a Hyundai—because I’m also an intelligent and savvy consumer.  I won’t be blindly led to buy something that isn’t exactly what I want just because Jeff Gordon says I should.  Despite Tony Stewart’s endorsement, I’m not going to buy Banquet pot pies because they’ve got at least two days’ worth of fat, sodium and calories in each one of them and have very little nutritive value.  If I were going to buy a pot pie, however, I’d probably choose Banquet over another brand if the price difference weren’t too great.

And that leads me to my soap-box point:  Wal-Mart. 

I’ve quit shopping at Wal-Mart as much as possible and now go to Target.  To the best of my knowledge, Wal-Mart does not currently sponsor any race team.  Yey they’re more than willing to sell racks and racks of shirts, hats, lounge pants, boxers, throw blankets, Valentine candy, pillows, clocks, candles, poster, notebooks (the list is endless so I’ll stop now) with driver images and endorsements all over them.  In other words, without having to contribute anything to the sport in terms of voluntary sponsorship, Wal-Mart is more than willing to reap the benefits of millions of NASCAR fans buying merchandise in their stores all across the nation.  Target, on the other hand, not only benefits from the buying power of NASCAR fans, but they also put those resources back into the sport in the form of sponsorship of the #41 car for Reed Sorenson and Chip Ganassi/Felix Sabates.  Additionally, they also are a major sponsor of Ganassi’s IRL race teams.  There’s no give and take with Wal-Mart, only take, so until I’ve heard that Wal-Mart is going to support NASCAR in ways other than just carrying NASCAR merchandise, I’ll continue to shop at Target.
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Anyone wanna go shopping now?
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: CodeBlueEMT on April 26, 2007, 11:54:07 AM
 In my Rain Man voice, "Wal*Mart SUCKS" ;D

 Shayne
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Scott on April 26, 2007, 01:27:53 PM
Anyone wanna go shopping now?

Not at Wal-Mart. For reasons different from yours, I will never shop there. Sam Walton was a great man that ran an ethical company. His kids are just plain greedy, and I refuse to support them.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: WSF on April 26, 2007, 08:10:24 PM
I shop more at Target then Wal-mart , only because Target is closer. I have no problem shopping anywere. Just because the stores sell nascar  merchandise doesn't make me want to buy any. Believe me I love Nascar, i just don't jump and buy any products that i see on TV because my favorite driver selling it.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: SD90MATT on April 28, 2007, 12:07:39 PM
When the Busch Series possibly becomes the Wal-Mart Series next year, will you support them then?
I personally don't care for Wally-World but we go there out of convenience & finnancial reasons.

Matt
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Signholder on April 28, 2007, 12:37:49 PM
I think we all need to make an effort when when possible, support those that support the sport we love.      Don't feel guilty when you don't. In my case, there is a Target just past the K-Mart and before the Wal-Mart. If I know Target has what I need, and it's at a competetive price (a little higher or a little lower) I chose Target to support them.
As for W-World hooking up with the Busch series, that would be great!!! That would help all of us feel a little less guilty.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: #1Jimmiefan on April 28, 2007, 02:57:54 PM
Anyone wanna go shopping now?

Not at Wal-Mart. For reasons different from yours, I will never shop there. Sam Walton was a great man that ran an ethical company. His kids are just plain greedy, and I refuse to support them.

AMEN! Since Mr. Walton passed, the quality of product plummeted and the prices have raised. Heck, I hate shopping all together BUT if I have to get clothes, I can almost always find a sale at the mall with better quality AND prices than the crap and Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Signspotter#19 on April 28, 2007, 03:59:09 PM
I had not heard that Wally world might sponser the Busch series!
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Texas16 on April 29, 2007, 12:22:14 PM
Among the potential sponsors mentioned on Jayski.com for the Busch series beginning in '08 are Samsung, WalMart and Subway.  Personally I'm voting for Subway unless there's some way I could eat more sandwiches and convince them to go back to the #16 car as primary sponsor tho' Samsung might be a good choice, too.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: SD90MATT on April 29, 2007, 09:53:51 PM
I guess since Subway is owned by WalMart it's kinda one in the same.

Matt
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Signholder on April 29, 2007, 09:56:01 PM
SD90MATT, Are you sure about Wal-Mart owning Subway?
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: SD90MATT on April 29, 2007, 10:01:53 PM
'Twas what I gleened when WalMart booted McDonalds from their store here & brought in Subway. Not 100% sure, as I haven't scoured the web on that, but pretty sure from what I've learned. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Matt
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: SD90MATT on April 29, 2007, 10:29:04 PM
OK, got it straight now. WalMart owns the "RIGHTS" to operate the  900+ stores that operate within the hallowed walls of WalMart. Still, it's gonna be weird calling it the WalMart or SubWay or whatever Series. "Hey, did you catch the WalMart race yesterday?"

My Bad,

Matt
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Quack on April 29, 2007, 10:29:35 PM
I'm curious as well.  I can find nothing that indicates that Doctor's Associates has sold Subway to Walmart, nor anything that indicates that Walmart bought Doctor's Associates.  Please post if you find something.  :)
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Signholder on April 29, 2007, 10:45:45 PM
OK, got it straight now. WalMart owns the "RIGHTS" to operate the  900+ stores that operate within the hallowed walls of WalMart. Still, it's gonna be weird calling it the WalMart or SubWay or whatever Series. "Hey, did you catch the WalMart race yesterday?"

My Bad,

Matt
900+ Subways in Wal-Marts. That's impressive. Could be the makings of a long lasting relationship/partnership.
I agree with you though, "The Wal-Mart Race" sounds like what you do trying to find a parking place on saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: wendyrlfg on April 30, 2007, 08:06:58 PM
I am a long time racing fan & unfortunaly now a soccor mom - I do feel that the advertisers & our government are trying to brain wash us all with the ad's - I hate Walmart & to think they would be involved in Nascar makes me as sick as the Macy's day parade be coming the Walmart day parade I don't buy products because I see it on a car - I try things on sale & if I like it I'll buy again - If I don't buy things on sale I can't afford to go to the race - although with the cost gas gas & tickets my race schedule has gone from at least 6 a year to probably 1 - I'm going to NHRA this year it's not as political
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Signspotter#19 on May 02, 2007, 02:41:39 PM
Our WalMart still has McDonalds in it. I feel cheated. I like Subway.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: HERM on May 05, 2007, 02:59:17 AM
got a problem here ya'll.  all we got in lil ole rink dink georgia is a walmart.  no choices.  what do i do??  asking anyone listening
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: #1Jimmiefan on May 05, 2007, 09:10:25 PM
Our WalMart still has McDonalds in it. I feel cheated. I like Subway.

Me too!
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Scott on May 10, 2007, 03:41:55 AM
I'm the last guy in the world to stick up for The Evil Empire (Wal-Mart), but is Target doing NASCAR (or the driver they sponsor) a favor by "supporting the sport"? I'd be willing to bet that it's not a favor at all, but an investment with a healthy ROI.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Texas16 on May 10, 2007, 08:39:46 AM
I concur that Target it getting a healthy "ROI" from their sponsorship of Ganassi's teams--both IRL and NASCAR.  And I don't see them as doing NASCAR a favor.  There's very little--if any--altruism in NASCAR sponsorship.  Still, they are supporting the sport.  There is a two-way exchange of money associated w/ Target.  With Wally World, there seems to be only a one-way exchange of money.  In fact, other than local education endeavors (which I firmly believe are important), what does WalMart support, sponsor, etc?  Until about a year-and-a-half ago, W-M would donate damaged but useable food to local charities and food banks.  In response to a lawsuit, now they've quit doing even that. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Scott on May 10, 2007, 05:14:18 PM
With Wally World, there seems to be only a one-way exchange of money.

NASCAR/drivers make no money from NASCAR merch sold at Wal-Mart?  ;)
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Texas16 on May 10, 2007, 10:35:53 PM
I meant the sport as a whole.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: canuck speed freak on May 13, 2007, 12:03:34 PM
ROI is the only reason any company spends money to promote their business. I dont believe that Target, Wal-mart, or Home Depot is thinking they are doing Nascar a service.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: caboolarue on May 26, 2007, 02:11:14 PM
Until about a year-and-a-half ago, W-M would donate damaged but useable food to local charities and food banks.  In response to a lawsuit, now they've quit doing even that. 
Catching up on some info here.  Curious, is there any info in response to this lawsuit.  I am in the not-for-profit business, and I have a resource library for those who are having a rough time.  I never could figure out why W-M throws away so much, when it could be put to good use. 

You know they have this huge trash compact that is enclosed so homeless can't rumage through it (I know this sounds bad written down, but couldn't figure out any other way to put it.)
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: Nascar#3 on May 30, 2007, 11:59:48 AM
I buy Oreo cookies, I drink Coke Cola, I put shell fuel in my car, oil it down in Penzoil, wash my clothes with Tide, drink Budwieser, coors light, miller lite, Jack Daniels, wash the chrome on the car with Pepsi cola, I drive a toyota, get my film devolloped on Kodac paper, ship with Fex EX and UPS....You get my drift.....I got my Nascar real bad! LOL!
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: #1Jimmiefan on June 03, 2007, 01:34:29 PM
Catching up on some info here.  Curious, is there any info in response to this lawsuit.  I am in the not-for-profit business, and I have a resource library for those who are having a rough time.  I never could figure out why W-M throws away so much, when it could be put to good use. 

You know they have this huge trash compact that is enclosed so homeless can't rumage through it (I know this sounds bad written down, but couldn't figure out any other way to put it.)

I have looked all over and the only thing I can find is that Wal-Mart chose not to donate anymore due to the fear of being sued...I could find nothing about an actual lawsuit. In fact, IF they donate food and someone were to become ill from eating that food Wal-Mart would have no liability under the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act which is a federal law passed in 1996 offering food donors wide-ranging protections from civil lawsuits or criminal prosecution. The law states that donors can be held liable only in instances of "gross negligence."
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: caboolarue on June 03, 2007, 02:27:06 PM
Thanx, #1Jimmiefan, I thought there was some type of Good Samaritan protection, otherwise places like Salvation Army, Harvestors, Church Groups, food pantries etc. would not be able to pass out donated items to the needy.  We have a local church group that goes around to different grocery stores and get bread, and pastry items, then they pass it out to those who are in need.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: #1Jimmiefan on June 03, 2007, 03:44:18 PM
Anytime, it really makes no sense to me. Sam Walton would have wanted the items donated and for a company that greedy it is stupid they wouldn't want the extra tax write off. They donate $$ (supposedly) but they could get an even bigger tax break if they donated food, clothing, etc.

I am sure Mr. Walton is rolling in his grave over what's happened with that company since he passed.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: caboolarue on June 03, 2007, 07:07:27 PM
Yes, I am aware of the matching grants, My organization is receptive of it once a year.  We are very appreciative of it.  But there is so much more that could be done with the throw away items.
Title: Re: Let's Go Shopping
Post by: #1Jimmiefan on June 03, 2007, 07:09:49 PM
I totally agree, and if Wal-Mart were smart they'd be doing just that! Why throw out food that would benefit non-profit organiztions as well as themselves? Stupidity!
Title: Lets Go Shopping
Post by: Pridalk09 on November 23, 2009, 03:52:10 AM
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Title: Lets Go Shopping
Post by: Pridalk09 on December 26, 2009, 03:29:59 AM
So does Lets Tap come with those box lids? Od will I ned to make my own?

I dont have a table in my gaming room to set-it up on.

Looking forward to the game